tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post6973405690635218047..comments2009-04-28T01:05:51.861-07:00Comments on Where's Your Brain?: 2008 - A Year Of Stupidity - 16 Days LeftJustaDoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10003082580136787667noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-62151062916558650672008-12-19T09:49:00.000-08:002008-12-19T09:49:00.000-08:00Correction:In the 2003 State of the Union Address,...Correction:<BR/>In the <A HREF="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html" REL="nofollow">2003 State of the Union Address</A>, President Bush called for $15 billion to fight HIV/AIDS abroad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-2941461802317044812008-12-19T09:41:00.000-08:002008-12-19T09:41:00.000-08:00justadog: The HIV/AIDS wasted money was started by...<B>justadog:</B> The HIV/AIDS wasted money was started by the homosexual lobby putting pressure on Democrats. <BR/><BR/><B>justadog (continued):</B> Unfortunately some RINOs traded their vote for this wasted $$$ in exchange for support for some of their programs.<BR/><BR/>In the <A HREF="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html" REL="nofollow">2004 State of the Union Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-10123438186992592832008-12-19T07:38:00.000-08:002008-12-19T07:38:00.000-08:00justadog: Some programs are perpetual handouts, so...<B>justadog:</B> Some programs are perpetual handouts, some new. Obama will most definitely increase money to the UN and even as a Senator pushed through his "Global Poverty Act":<BR/><BR/><B>justadog (continued):</B> The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-35044356002061190742008-12-19T07:23:00.000-08:002008-12-19T07:23:00.000-08:00The numbers up to 2006 come from a government publ...The numbers up to 2006 come from <A HREF="http://qesdb.usaid.gov/gbk/index.html" REL="nofollow">a government publication called the Greenbook</A><BR/><BR/>The Greenbook says it shows "a complete historical record of United States' (U.S.) foreign aid to the rest of the world by reporting all loans and grants authorized by the U.S. Government for each fiscal year." <BR/><BR/>The Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-81085997552495909322008-12-18T19:00:00.000-08:002008-12-18T19:00:00.000-08:00Sorry - your graph is totally worthless since the ...Sorry - your graph is totally worthless since the origins of those values are not known (not the source, but what it includes).<BR/><BR/>Your 2nd reference after "The numbers up to 2006 come" are generalizations - again not worth much when one wants to address the real (full) expenditures.<BR/><BR/>Your last reference is from the State Dept. and they have their own budget for handouts - and againJustaDoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10003082580136787667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-47182746378355409422008-12-18T18:41:00.000-08:002008-12-18T18:41:00.000-08:00Here's a graph of the U.S. government funds spent...Here's a graph of the <A HREF="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pUFHHSKCUgr5qHOQ0NGLwBA" REL="nofollow"> U.S. government funds spent on foreign aid from 1983 to the present</A>. Values are adjusted for inflation. Inflation adjustments are to 2006 dollars. <BR/><BR/>You can see that from 2004 to 2008, the values went from just over 36 billion to just under 40 billion. That's what I mean Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-64634546625604291842008-12-18T14:47:00.000-08:002008-12-18T14:47:00.000-08:00justadog: If you wish to continue to disagree wit...<B>justadog:</B> If you wish to continue to disagree with my post it is YOU that needs to document why I am wrong and you are right.<BR/><BR/>I never did disagree with your post. I provided some historical context - none of which contradicted what you originally wrote. If I *had* said anything that disagreed with your post I would have backed it up. <BR/><BR/>You responded by saying that my Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-11010886646873023662008-12-18T10:36:00.000-08:002008-12-18T10:36:00.000-08:00If you wish to continue to disagree with my post i...If you wish to continue to disagree with my post it is YOU that needs to document why I am wrong and you are right.<BR/><BR/>You will also have to clarify what you think "significantly" is - $1 or a trillion?<BR/><BR/>I've already posted and commented my view so now you can produce your evidence that less has flowed from the US than the past.JustaDoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10003082580136787667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-6885520263322758142008-12-18T09:25:00.000-08:002008-12-18T09:25:00.000-08:00justadog: In my definition of foreign aid is any m...justadog: In my definition of foreign aid is any money or services or materials provided to any nation outside of the USA.<BR/><BR/>We have the same definition of foreign aid. I agree that the "Parade" article that you quoted from left things out. Do you have any numbers that indicate that foreign aid *has* changed significantly since 2004?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-67089945824404672632008-12-18T08:56:00.000-08:002008-12-18T08:56:00.000-08:00In my definition of foreign aid is any money or se...In my definition of <I>foreign aid</I> is any money or services or materials provided to any nation outside of the USA.<BR/><BR/>With that you need to consider everything - my post just mentioned a very tiny part of the outrageous give-away. Some more little pieces that add to the whole:<BR/><BR/>> Military material aid<BR/>> Military training aid<BR/>> Direct food aid<BR/>> Food for JustaDoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10003082580136787667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-83663426255155703502008-12-18T08:20:00.000-08:002008-12-18T08:20:00.000-08:00Just to make it clear that my previous comment was...Just to make it clear that my previous comment was not some kind of "trick", I should have mentioned that I *do* have numbers for historic foreign aid (which I will post soon) and they do not indicate that United States foreign aid has changed significantly since 2004. You've already said that I am wrong though and if you have data that confirms this I would like to know what it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-20106606689785545112008-12-18T08:05:00.000-08:002008-12-18T08:05:00.000-08:00justadog: You are wrong with "United States foreig...justadog: You are wrong with "United States foreign aid has not changed significantly since 2004" <BR/><BR/>What are the foreign aid numbers that would lead you to think this? The "Parade" article that you originally quoted from only had values from 2008? Have you looked at the historic numbers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-8486131004544279012008-12-17T07:55:00.000-08:002008-12-17T07:55:00.000-08:00The spending by a Liberal Congress, including libe...The spending by a Liberal Congress, including liberal RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) has been horrid. <BR/><BR/>You are wrong with "United States foreign aid has not changed significantly since 2004" - and the past 2 years under a Democrat controlled congress and the future 4 years with a more liberal socialist (by his own admission) president will easily eclipse what I've posted.<BR/><BR/>The JustaDoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10003082580136787667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-1657501482635930772008-12-17T07:27:00.000-08:002008-12-17T07:27:00.000-08:00Here's some historical context:United States forei...Here's some historical context:<BR/><BR/>United States foreign aid has not changed significantly since 2004. If 2008 has been a year of stupidity then 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007 were also years of stupidity.<BR/><BR/>In 2004 we added the funds to fight world wide HIV/AIDS. This was spearheaded by Bush and authorized by the Republican controlled congress.<BR/><BR/>Since the end of World War II, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9169633.post-27233828042342741192008-12-15T11:28:00.000-08:002008-12-15T11:28:00.000-08:00And it will continue in grand fashion after Januar...And it will continue in grand fashion after January 20.<BR/><BR/>All hail Comrade Obama, protector of all countries outside the U.S, the UN, and the unions, and oppressor of the common people of the U.S.!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com