Well now those greedy socialists are on the war path against Gallo of Sonoma. It's the same old complaints - claims of horrible working conditions, claims of low wages, claims of denying benefits, blaa blaa blaa - you know the routine. Now the strong arm tactics of the extortionist unions is urging everyone to boycott Gallo - fat chance. The extortionists have also started a smear campaign against Gallo. Gallo got in a bit of trouble last year for trying to get rid of union workers - a right they should have - choose who works for them, don't you think?Every business, especially a family business, should have the right to choose who works for them or not - but socialists don't think that way. Socialists believe businesses have no rights and only workers have rights. If workers at Gallo do not like their compensation then they are free to take their finely honed skills somewhere they can get what they think they deserve. (Ever notice there are no businesses run by socialists for all these whiners to go work at and get paid what the socialists preach should be a fair wage?)
Socialism is by definition shared wealth - so that minimally trained, minimally educated, minimally skilled worker should have equal shared wealth as everyone else.Socialism dictates that all the major corporations should belong to the public. In reality they already are public corporations - anyone can purchase stock in them, and if you buy over 50% of the stock in the company then you can call the shots! Socialism dictates that everyone should have a job - whether it is needed or not. Gee - think that's one reason the public school system has a glut of workers that are not teachers. Ever notice the public school system always tells us they don't have enough money - and when there is some cutback they terminate teachers and not these other people?
Now go buy a case of Gallo!
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You don't seem to understand basic socialist principles at all. Maybe you should invest some time in doing a little research. And by research, I don't mean pulling a quote or two off the internet. If you're interested, I would be happy to point out a few magazines or books you could peruse. One example would be to go to your local library to check out almost any book written by the late Michael Harrington.
Please enlighten my readers the basic socialist principles as they pertain to the post. Also, please detail what I wrote in this post that is not correct as related to the basic socialist principles.
Every business, especially a family business, should have the right to choose who works for them or not - but socialists don't think that way.
I think most socialists would agree that each person should be afforded an equal opportunity to succeed and not be subject to discrimination based on gender, race, sexual orientation, religion or age.
Socialists believe businesses have no rights and only workers have rights.
Untrue. Socialists believe that BOTH parties have rights.
Ever notice there are no businesses run by socialists for all these whiners to go work at and get paid what the socialists preach should be a fair wage?
Untrue. There are lots of businesses run by socialists.
Socialism is by definition shared wealth - so that minimally trained, minimally educated, minimally skilled worker should have equal shared wealth as everyone else.
You don't seem to grasp nor understand Marx's great statement: "From each according to his ABILITY, From each according to his need." Marx recognized that different people have different skills and different levels of skill. He never suggested that everybody should be paid the same. I challenge you to find a quote from Marx said something like, "Pay the janitors, the teachers and the doctors the same salary." You won't find it because he never said nor EVEN hinted at it.
Socialism dictates that all the major corporations should belong to the public.
Again, not true. Socialists believe that things in the public domain (e.g., the PUBLIC airwaves, PUBLIC land and water, etc.) should be democratically-managed by the public through their representatives in a citizen-based government, not a government controlled by special interests on either side of the aisle.
Socialism dictates that everyone should have a job - whether it is needed or not.
Socialism dictates that everyone who WANTS to work should have a job that pays a living wage. Have you looked across our nation lately? Our infrastructure (roads and bridges, for example) are falling apart. There is a lot of work that NEEDS to be done.
Take into public ownership, under democratic working class control and management, the top 500 corporations, banks, insurance and finance houses that dominate the economy. Compensation to be paid on the basis of proven need. - Copy/pasted from: http://www.socialistalternative.org/wwsf.html
No Workfare or prison labor, guaranteed training and a job for all. - Copy/pasted from: http://www.socialistalternative.org/wwsf.html
"From each according to his ABILITY, From each according to his need." - In reality, socialists see no difference with (let's say) a public school teacher with 5 years on the job that does the minimal whose students do poorly vs. a public school teacher in the same school, same 5 years on the job - yet is a better teacher, whose students excel, who works harder on class material (above and beyond what they are told to use). There is no room for personal achievement in Socialism. Personal achievment would mean someone is better than someone else, in a different class - and the goal of socialism is to abolish classes.
All I reference is taken from socialist websites around the world. Perhaps you need to check what you believe 'cause they seem to be thinking a bit differently than you.
Please provide some example corporation names that were started by socialists and are still operating by socialists - in the USA please. This one should really prove interesting! (To prove your assertion above: Untrue. There are lots of businesses run by socialists.)
In my initial post on this thread, I stated, "Maybe you should invest some time in doing a little research. And by research, I don't mean pulling a quote or two off the internet." Unfortunately, this is precisely what you've done.
As I've pointed out before, Socialist Alternative is a SMALL group. If you want to take a look at the three LARGEST socialist groups in the nation, check out Democratic Socialist of America, Socialist Party USA or Solidarity.
the goal of socialism is to abolish classes
Again, you're confusing communism with socialism. Abolishing the class structure is a communist ideal. As someone pointed out on a different thread, communism is an ECONOMIC system, while socialism is a POLITICAL system.
All I reference is taken from socialist websites around the world.
I only see reference from ONE site. Check out the 3 I list above and then see if they meet your assumptions.
There are lots of businesses run by socialists - trey
My readers are still waiting for that list of corporations that were started by socialists and are still in operation by socialists in the USA.
Hmm. I'm still waiting for you to check out the sites I mentioned.
Well you can wait all you want - I never said I would, but YOU did say there were USA corporations that were started by socialists and still in operation by socialists. The fact you have not produced this list is therefore proof that they do not exist.
Thus ends the tread on this topic.
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